Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 7280 Location: Somewhere you're not
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 3:53 pm Post subject:
Slim wrote:
I'm getting a bit confused, but hopefully this is going in the right spot:
If I were new to a forum, and had a post or a thread responded to by someone with "moderator" under their name, I'd be a bit excited and feel welcomed a bit more quickly. (like when your team captain tells you you're doing a good job)
Just thought I'd try to look at the idea from another perspective
i'd have to second that, a mod saying hello and welcoming someone to a site they are new to and sometimes unsure of would be just jolly good manners, not that i'm saying they don't already, just it wouldnt be clear they were to the new member without an indication under their name.
moderators are imo amongst other things there to act as a sign posting element to direct those who don't know various things. if they don't know you're a mod then you can't fulfil that essential role, surely?
bagpuss
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 10507 Location: cambridge
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Moderator visiblitiy
JB wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
There has been a request to increase moderator visibility. In 24 hours we are going to post a poll currently with these options
Moderator visibility
* moderators should be listed by name at the top of each forum section
* moderators should be labelled with their name and avatar in the left hand side of the forum threads
* The current moderator listing is sufficient
* Don't mind which option is picked
edit
*a forum moderator link at the top of every forum page should link to the list of moderators (suggested by chez)
This thread is to allow discussion of these options and to ask for addition options if you feel your position isn't covered
I'd want to see a list of moderators at the top of the forum and each moderator labelled as such against their name and avatar. That would have been more useful when we had forum specific moderators so that someone can see if a reply is from a forum moderator and so might be more "authoritative" an answer to your question as opposed to a reply from a moderator who just happened to be interested in the question and yet still retains the transparency that is needed.
(and yes I realise that may not fit with the current implementation of a single moderators group)
How about we add a 2 or more of the above option and people comment to say which options they wanted.
This would also mean we could add moderator comments in thread to be highlighted in colour or bold to the poll
Polls are so much better when you don't start splitting things up into so-many options that no one clear winner emerges. Keep it simple; do you want moderators 'labelled', yes or no. Precisely how thats done would seem less important.
bagpuss
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 10507 Location: cambridge
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:10 pm Post subject:
cab wrote:
Polls are so much better when you don't start splitting things up into so-many options that no one clear winner emerges. Keep it simple; do you want moderators 'labelled', yes or no. Precisely how thats done would seem less important.
The moderators are already labelled though so if that's all people want there is no action needed. I was under the impression this was a debate about how they should be labelled hence the need for options
Nick
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 34535 Location: Hereford
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:12 pm Post subject:
VISIBLY, CLEARLY labelled, I suggest is what's meant.
The moderators are already labelled though so if that's all people want there is no action needed. I was under the impression this was a debate about how they should be labelled hence the need for options
You know what I mean, labelled in a way that is visible without having to remember where a link is that'll open a topic that you have to poke through to find out.
I don't think its that big a deal either way, but now that the modding team is smaller I think it would be a lot less overwhelming to have such a thing than it would have been previously.
bagpuss
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 10507 Location: cambridge
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:15 pm Post subject:
For simple options that aren't so black and white as yes/no how about
1. list of names at top of forum
2. indicator alongside avatar
3. Both option 1 and 2
4. Don't mind/happy with the current system
Bodrighy
Joined: 15 Aug 2008 Posts: 2157 Location: Near Devizes
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:15 pm Post subject:
Becki wrote:
I want an option for 'I don't give a stuff either way'
I would have probably put it diffedrently but I have to agree. The main advantage is if I should ever need to get hold of a mod for soemthing. I really cannot for the life of me understand why so many otherwise intelligent people are spending so much time arguing of this and other matters lately. Maybe it's the dark nights or something. I joined this forum because I am interested in Downsizing, ecological and environmental issues etc. If a thread annoys or bores, I leave it alone. as I have up until now. If my kids had behaved and spoken the way that some people have lately in the various threads they'd have been seriously told off. Bickering I expect between kids, not adults. What has been going on is in no way discussion it's carping picky bickering
Pete
Tavascarow
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 8407 Location: South Cornwall
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:22 pm Post subject:
Can I suggest we start a thread in this section & make it a sticky titled 'A question for the mod team'.
Then if anyone feels they have a problem it's a place to air their queery/greivance in public.
PMs are fine & necessary in certain instances but sometimes it would be better for a public hearing such as we are having now.
Like 'Why was my thread removed?'.
I want an option for 'I don't give a stuff either way'
Isn't that No. 4 on the list?
Yeah yeah ok, clever clogs
Mr O
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 5512 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:41 pm Post subject:
bagpuss wrote:
For simple options that aren't so black and white as yes/no how about
1. list of names at top of forum
2. indicator alongside avatar
3. Both option 1 and 2
4. Don't mind/happy with the current system
I am for both options 1 & 2 my reason being that I was pmed about a comment I made on a thread by Gil ( bless her), Iwas quite rude to her as I had no idea that she was a Mod at the time and thought she was just some busy body poking her nose in. I can't remember if I ever apologised so sorry Gil, I know it was a long time ago but it is a good example of what moderator annonimity (sp) can cause.
Brownbear
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 14929 Location: South West
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:42 pm Post subject:
I couldn't care less, on the grounds that I think the whole thing is a total non-issue.
bagpuss
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 10507 Location: cambridge
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:46 pm Post subject:
Mr O wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
For simple options that aren't so black and white as yes/no how about
1. list of names at top of forum
2. indicator alongside avatar
3. Both option 1 and 2
4. Don't mind/happy with the current system
I am for both options 1 & 2 my reason being that I was pmed about a comment I made on a thread by Gil ( bless her), Iwas quite rude to her as I had no idea that she was a Mod at the time and thought she was just some busy body poking her nose in. I can't remember if I ever apologised so sorry Gil, I know it was a long time ago but it is a good example of what moderator annonimity (sp) can cause.
A poll should go up tomorrow about lunchtime so everyone can say which one they want
Mr O
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 5512 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 10 4:53 pm Post subject:
Brownbear wrote:
I couldn't care less, on the grounds that I think the whole thing is a total non-issue.
I would agree that it is not the whole issue, but I still think identifying who applies certain rules is as important as the rules them self. Can you imagine playing a game of football with a referee dressed the same as the players?
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