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toggle



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
toggle wrote:
use 2 different browsers. eg ie and firefox, seperate cookies. works fine most places.


Thanks toggle.


works then?

Barefoot Andrew
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

toggle wrote:
Rob R wrote:
toggle wrote:
use 2 different browsers. eg ie and firefox, seperate cookies. works fine most places.


Thanks toggle.


works then?


It does. If I'm testing sommat techie I'll be logged in (with Firefox) as my usual BA, and as my test account in IE.
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toggle



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

so there is no reason mods couldn't have a posting account and a moderator account, if that is what is wanted.

Barefoot Andrew
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

As discussed elsewhere it's a faff. The techies only use a separate account specifically to see how things work from a normal user's viewpoint and verify all is well.
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toggle



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

when i've had to use 2 usernames regularly, i never found it a particular faff if I used 2 browsers.

bagpuss



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

toggle wrote:
when i've had to use 2 usernames regularly, i never found it a particular faff if I used 2 browsers.


I don't even use multiple browser windows let alone multiple browsers. I would rather I was always marked as a mod than have to use two accounts

Gervase



Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Midland Spinner makes some good points, as does Mr O.
It would be helpful to have mods visible by some tag in the avatar field because, like it or not, they do have a different status to the ordinary member - or at least they used to. There used to be many posts in the staff room reminding mods that they had to set a particular example, to avoid swearing and not become argumentative and not to let personality cloud issues. Again, this may now have changed.

nats



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 10 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I like the idea of the Mods just being really clear when they are actually "moderating" but I wouldn't be averse to some of the other ideas. The key thing for me is that the various posts that have been referred to previously when people haven't known that someone is a mod should have had something in them to make that clear. Another forum I used to visit more often would have mods putting "/MOD" before a post and after.... that seemed really helpful.... and I think that this should be one of the poll options!

Midland Spinner



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 10 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I voted for option 3 (both 1&2) but actually it should have been Either 1 or 2 (i.e. make them a bit more visible - I'm not that fussed how you do it)

or, (no option for this in the poll) Mods to sign as moderators when they are moderating so that we all occasionally see that who the moderators are & what mods do.

bagpuss



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 10 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Midland Spinner wrote:
I voted for option 3 (both 1&2) but actually it should have been Either 1 or 2 (i.e. make them a bit more visible - I'm not that fussed how you do it)

or, (no option for this in the poll) Mods to sign as moderators when they are moderating so that we all occasionally see that who the moderators are & what mods do.


The reason the latter option wasn't given was because that for both technical and eases sake it doesn't make sense for the moderators to maintain 2 separate forum accounts

Jb



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Just looking at the poll. Currently 61% of votes want increased visibility in some form but, because of the way the options are split, the highest vote is "do nothing" with 39%

vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

JB wrote:
Just looking at the poll. Currently 61% of votes want increased visibility in some form but, because of the way the options are split, the highest vote is "do nothing" with 39%


Therefore, most want a change rather than doing nothing by do nothing you go against the majority.

Midland Spinner



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bagpuss wrote:
Midland Spinner wrote:
I voted for option 3 (both 1&2) but actually it should have been Either 1 or 2 (i.e. make them a bit more visible - I'm not that fussed how you do it)

or, (no option for this in the poll) Mods to sign as moderators when they are moderating so that we all occasionally see that who the moderators are & what mods do.


The reason the latter option wasn't given was because that for both technical and eases sake it doesn't make sense for the moderators to maintain 2 separate forum accounts


I wasn't saying they should have two accounts, I was saying that if they are posting with their modding hat on they should make it clear in the text of the posting i.e.
"I've fixed your link, best wishes Bagpuss (Moderator)"
or "Hi, I'm a moderator, I've fixed your link"
or (hopefully not too often) "Hey guys This is getting a bit heated, please cool it signed Bagpuss (Moderator)"

But having re-read my post, I see that I didn't make that completely clear. I meant Sign their post, not sign in as.

bagpuss



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Midland Spinner wrote:
bagpuss wrote:
Midland Spinner wrote:
I voted for option 3 (both 1&2) but actually it should have been Either 1 or 2 (i.e. make them a bit more visible - I'm not that fussed how you do it)

or, (no option for this in the poll) Mods to sign as moderators when they are moderating so that we all occasionally see that who the moderators are & what mods do.


The reason the latter option wasn't given was because that for both technical and eases sake it doesn't make sense for the moderators to maintain 2 separate forum accounts


I wasn't saying they should have two accounts, I was saying that if they are posting with their modding hat on they should make it clear in the text of the posting i.e.
"I've fixed your link, best wishes Bagpuss (Moderator)"
or "Hi, I'm a moderator, I've fixed your link"
or (hopefully not too often) "Hey guys This is getting a bit heated, please cool it signed Bagpuss (Moderator)"

But having re-read my post, I see that I didn't make that completely clear. I meant Sign their post, not sign in as.


This is something we intend to try and do regardless of the outcome of this poll

Midland Spinner



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 10 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

bagpuss wrote:
This is something we intend to try and do regardless of the outcome of this poll


Great

Actually, if you do that I think that the whole mod visibility thing would be pretty much fixed - especially if there's a link on the contact us page as well.

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