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TINKS30

Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 162
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 6:27 pm Post subject: infuriating!
I have an egg that was due to hatch yesterday, I can hear tapping in the egg, but it hasn`t pipped. This is soooooo painful! Also i wanted to ask, a chick hatched last week and it had like a yolk sac outside it`s tummy, it had blood around it when it tried to hatch. Was it not formed properly?

SandraR

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 2346
Location: Devon

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 7:07 pm Post subject:
Some times you can hear tapping a few days before pipping. If you candle the egg you will be able to see if the chick has pipped internally. Personally I would just leave it alone and give it time. The chick that hatched last week sounds as if it did so too early. Was it in a an incubator ? If so the temperature may have been too high.

TINKS30

Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 162
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 7:12 pm Post subject:

SandraR wrote:

The chick that hatched last week sounds as if it did so too early. Was it in a an incubator ? If so the temperature may have been too high.

It was two days past hatching day, an egg that had been put in the same time hatched very well the day before, but the eggs were from different places. I also have a digi temp reader on the incubator and it seems fine.

misty07

Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Posts: 2223
Location: swindon wiltshire

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 7:30 pm Post subject:
humidity?

SandraR

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 2346
Location: Devon

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 7:35 pm Post subject:

misty07 wrote:

humidity?

Possibly if it was too high along side temp. but sometimes I think it just happens especially if the rest of the eggs hatched successfully.

So many factors kick in when hatching.Stock quality and health play an important roll, also hygeine and storage before setting, not to mention the effects the postal system have on hatching eggs.

TINKS30

Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 162
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 7:44 pm Post subject:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but how would the temp and the humidity cause the chick to have developed that way? I guess it can as i trust what you guys say, i just want to understand more.

SandraR

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 2346
Location: Devon

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 8:06 pm Post subject:

If the temperature was too high at any stage of incubation the chick would have hatched too early. In the last few days before hatching the yolk sac is absorded into the body of the chick, if it hatches too soon this process won't have been completed.

Humidity controls the loss of moisture within the egg. The level of loss is noticable by the size of the air sac. Too much moisture loss and the air sac will be too 'high up ' in the egg and the chick is unable or at least has difficult in pipping internally. Too little moisture loss and the sac is too large and the chick often drowns when pipping leading to dead in shell.

I think that is the basics, there are 'chicken' people on here who can explain it much clearer and more detailed I'm sure.

TINKS30

Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 162
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 8:59 pm Post subject:

cool that all makes sence now thank you.

The 3 eggs that have hatched, (my first 3 ever) pip, but then don`t seem to do much more, i was told ( by a man near me) to use twezzers to break the shell abit more and then leave them to it for abit and if they don`t do any more in afew hours, do abit more myself. The first chick did very little it`s self, the second one just need help pushing the top off, the third one pipped, there was another chick in with it and it wanted to help the chick out of the egg, but it never made it, then when it was dead i removed the rest of the egg. If they are all having trouble getting out what causes this that i could change? Am i just too much of a worrier?

misty07

Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Posts: 2223
Location: swindon wiltshire

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 9:40 pm Post subject:

took one of my hatchlings over 24 hrs to get out so just keep an eye on them we had a duck off a friend who helped it out the shell me called it quassi modo due to it having a crooked neck as was damaged due to the shell being helped off. its a case of i think as and when to help not to help it unless on last breath. this first set of hatchlings i had i decided to lend a hand when it was still wet after being out of shell for 8 hours and was at deaths door called it chickadee lived indoors for a while but we lifted it out the hutch as mum kicked it out the nest and wernt getting warm so took it in the house and stuck it on the cooker for 5 mins then down my OH's top for 36 hrs.

TINKS30

Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 162
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 10 9:51 pm Post subject:

misty07 wrote:

stuck it on the cooker for 5 mins then down my OH's top for 36 hrs.

WHAT? REALLY?
It would be good to meet up with some chicken people in swindon sometime.

TINKS30

Joined: 20 Sep 2010
Posts: 162
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 10 8:36 am Post subject:
Ok quick update, the egg has no pipping or cracking. I can hear light tapping and cheaping. What can i should i do? If anything?

misty07

Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Posts: 2223
Location: swindon wiltshire

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 10 8:51 am Post subject:
depends how loud it is and how often i noticed there was cheaping for two days on one of my hatches iv only hatched twice once under a broody and once in a inky so it may be a case of wait and see. what day they on now?

SandraR

Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Posts: 2346
Location: Devon

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 10 8:54 am Post subject:
Just wait. He's getting there ! It is amazing how long some chicks take to hatch. While there is peeping and tapping you know all is welll and even if it goes quiet it is probably just having a rest. Waiting and not interfering is the hardest part

misty07

Joined: 22 Jan 2010
Posts: 2223
Location: swindon wiltshire

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 10 9:49 am Post subject:

TINKS30 wrote:

misty07 wrote:

stuck it on the cooker for 5 mins then down my OH's top for 36 hrs.

WHAT? REALLY?
It would be good to meet up with some chicken people in swindon sometime.

yes really and that was the first broody and im meeting up with a fellow ds'er at the poultry market on sat

HenX

Joined: 27 Apr 2009
Posts: 1459
Location: Forest of Dean

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 10 12:33 pm Post subject:
Is there a catalogue for Saturday, or is it just turn up and see what they've got? What is the stuff there normally like. I'm toying with the idea of heading over. Purely from a research perspectivce of course!!

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