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Hairyloon
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dpack
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Mistress Rose
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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tahir
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Hairyloon
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onemanband
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Mistress Rose
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 14 6:40 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you Hairyloon that the facilities for plastic recycling are not as good. We can put some in our recycle bin, but it is limited to plastic bottles. That takes quite a lot out. The major problem is the very thin stuff like plastic bags and film covering, some of which ends up very dirty anyway. I am thinking here about the plastic round meat and such like. Some supermarkets will take plastic carriers for recycling, which at least takes them out of landfill, and other supermarkets give small incentives to reuse your bags, although charging for them would be better.
Having to pay a deposit or other payment for packaging would be a good idea as it would certainly make people think about it a bit more. Trouble is, with the current laws, you can't always reuse food packaging, and other stuff is not really practical. Our paper charcoal bags would be a real mess second time round and impossible after that, and log nets get very badly pulled. We can't really use things like hessian as if they are sealed, trading standards get a bit ratty because the customer can't see the contents. |
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 14 9:01 am Post subject: |
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We can put some in our recycle bin, but it is limited to plastic bottles. |
That annoys me: it is pure laziness on the part of the council.
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Having to pay a deposit or other payment for packaging would be a good idea as it would certainly make people think about it a bit more. Trouble is, with the current laws, you can't always reuse food packaging... |
Which laws, and which packaging?
OK, some stuff is obvious, but if their are laws prohibiting the re-use of bottles, then I want to know about them...
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We can't really use things like hessian as if they are sealed, trading standards get a bit ratty because the customer can't see the contents. |
Unless the contents are not what it says on the label, then I can't see it is a matter for trading standards, though I expect a lot of customers like to see what they're buying.
It seems to me that a better class of log net might be in order, with deposit. |
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Mistress Rose
Joined: 21 Jul 2011 Posts: 15977
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 14 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Some plastics are not what they seem. Even when I went for my first job in 1970 I was told that some are layered, so you might get a simple looking bag that has three layers. Yes, most 'hard' plastic items are stamped with a number for recycling, but most of our plastic waste is film or bags and they don't have a number on them.
Some county food hygiene people are very funny about reusing even glass bottles, so I would suggest that you check with yours before expecting to recycle.
For places where we can easily deal with recycling like farmers markets that we go to each month, we have little dumpy sacks for our logs and charge a deposit. It works out quite well. They have the advantage of being easy to carry too. For outlets like farm shops it is a bit more difficult, and net sacks are the best way. Some trading standards can get rather awkward I am afraid, so hessian is not a good option. A few years ago a particular one told all the market traders that they were not allowed to sell to anyone that asked for things in lb and oz. That was withdrawn after a few months, and most of them carried on regardless, but we always have to have weights with kg first, and lb is optional, so 1lb of honey has to be labelled 454g even though it is a moot point as to whether the degree of accuracy implied is correct (scientifically), as the scales only need to be accurate to about 5g. |
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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pollyanna
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