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jema
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 5:31 pm    Post subject: Is this a crazy idea? Reply with quote
    

Put a 4x6 shed into a big hole/cutting, use railway sleeper as lintels above it, flood the outside with waterpoof expanding foam, cover sleepers with earth.
Instant cold room?

sean
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this a crazy idea? Reply with quote
    

jema wrote:
Is this a crazy idea?


Yep. It is. Well spotted.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I've heard crazier plans.
I would dispute the 'instant' bit tho.
Given the useable space in a 6 x 4 shed, I would suggest getting 4 upright fridges/freezers and burying in the face of bank is far more instant.
Or burying a refrigerated 'Luton body'.

Proper (but not instant) job, I'd say, insulated concrete floor,insulated block walls and concrete beam and block roof.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Or buying a refrigerated 'Luton body'.

and hiding it with a fast growing hedge

buried seems a bit crazy but you may have reasons

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:


buried seems a bit crazy but you may have reasons


Wanting to play with a mini-digger is my guess.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



moat?

Slim



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dpack wrote:

buried seems a bit crazy but you may have reasons


Lot lower power needs, yeah?

jema
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Buried means it's hidden, insulated and interesting as a feature.
I have mostly dug a deep trench path that looks like it will hit about the right depth for something like this.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

rather than a wooden shed it might be better to use a non rot "box"of some sort.scrapheap challenge could provide a suitable thing to re purpose

are you certain it wont flood?

a really stylish option would be one of

these or for a simpler option ?

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I thought the theory of a root cellar is to use the temperature of the cooler underground.
Wont the insulation stop the cooling?
I would use a cheap steel shed or an uninsulated van body painted with plenty of rust inhibitor & a plastic damp proof layer before backfilling.
Maybe insulate the exposed door.
A wooden shed is going to rot quickly IMHO.

jema
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

on the flooding front, the position is on a slope going down down down, so so long as the base allows run off it should be fine.

Metal shed sounds a good idea.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Remember you're not creating a cool box. You need fresh air and humidity. Timber won't work for long.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Behemoth wrote:
Timber won't work for long.

Does it need to?
If the space is filled with expanding foam then that will form the box: the shed is basically just acting as a former.

Nick



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hairyloon wrote:
Behemoth wrote:
Timber won't work for long.

Does it need to?
If the space is filled with expanding foam then that will form the box: the shed is basically just acting as a former.


HL seems to suggest it's not totally mad. This should tell you everything you need to know.

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 16 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Behemoth wrote:
Remember you're not creating a cool box. You need fresh air and humidity. Timber won't work for long.



https://www.aditnow.co.uk/cache/Thoresby-Colliery-Coal-Mine-User-Album/Thoresby-Colliery-Coal-Mine-User-Album-63864.jpg


That`s sorted,lol.

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