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vegplot



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

150 acres.

Green Rosie



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Location: Calvados, France
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lorrainelovesplants wrote:

Quite a lot of meat off a duck too.


Especially Muscovies

john of wessex



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

At on stage I had 1/3 of an acre, which would have been fine on my own but with a baby and a bone idle ex wife was a nightmare.

Now I have much less, two more babies & a hard working wife and am very happy with my much smaller patch as it's managable.

I suspect that it may be possible to work smaller areas harder with crops, and you have less weeding and watering to do.

Midland Spinner



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Location: Under a green roof
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Couple of acres, bit of woodland, bit of grass, bit of veg garden.
Stream would be nice.
Outbuildings would be nice.
Bit of heather moorland would be nice.
Can I specify the soil types too? (Rich fertile, well drained loam, with a bit of clay in an unused area so I can make pots, and a chalky bit for lime loving plants, with some peaty areas for lime haters - and some wetland - unimproved flood meadow would be ace!)

Santa: Pm me and I'll give you the address to drop the deeds off!

eta: OH says a further 8 acres would be nice!

Jb



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

About 10 acres I think would be a sensible amount. Only about 1 or 2 acres of that would be actively used for animals and crops the rest would be left as woodland. The rationale being that coppicing, foraging and other low level activities in the woodland would provide fuel and supplemental food and (IIRC) about 10 acres is needed to provide sufficient fuel for a household. Of course I may have misremembered that figure but nonetheless the principle would be to have a large amount of woodland and a small amount of actively used land.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I'm happy with what I've got.

Went



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tavascarow wrote:
I'm happy with what I've got.


Same here - more land = more hard work, there are only so many hours in a day.

Jb



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

john of wessex wrote:
At on stage I had 1/3 of an acre, which would have been fine on my own but with a baby and a bone idle ex wife was a nightmare.

Now I have much less, two more babies & a hard working wife and am very happy with my much smaller patch as it's managable.

I suspect that it may be possible to work smaller areas harder with crops, and you have less weeding and watering to do.


Oddly I've always found that larger areas are not proportionately that much more work, it takes just as long to dig quarter of an an acre as it does 5 rods, it's just that one is done by hand with a fork and one with a rotovator. Bigger areas require slightly bigger thinking but get a lot more in return.

yummersetter



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Depends a lot on wealth, health and how many people are committed.

We have two acres with fruit trees, flower beds, veg garden, bees, chickens etc. which is just about what we can cope with. All fine if the weather's good, I'm not working and OH is well but for the other 50 weeks of the year there's usually something drifting into chaos!

T.G



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Say around 300 .. some set purely to park land to gallop in about 100, cattle and sheep grazed� including a 150 acre wood areas managed to allow riding through and produce. The rest to farm land, growing crops and forage. Ideally several acres for a small market garden type affair for local people, produced sold as non-profit, veg boxes given to the elderly in the remote villages, set up on a community lead free basis.

We have a fair few acres less, sadly� but can make up for it with the Pennine bridleway

arvo



Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Green Rosie wrote:
arvo wrote:
Seymour recommends 1 or 5 doesn't he?

Though I remember on here a while ago there being some dicussion on how much land it was possible to feed a family on. Can't remember what the outcome was.


Is that acres or hectatres?


Pretty sure thats acres.

ETA: There's lovely diagrams in his books of what he'd do with them

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tavascarow wrote:
I'm happy with what I've got.
On reflection I would also like to own the 50 acres of woodland opposite my patch.
Purely to manage as a natural environment & to keep the motor bikes out.

judith



Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

In the not-to-distant future I shall probably be downsizing from an acre and a bit to practically nothing - not much more than a large courtyard garden. There is the possibility of another smallish bit of land that would make a perfect veg garden, but it won't be the end of the world if it doesn't happen.
I am quite looking forward to the enforced idleness!

Cathryn



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I knew there was a good reason to come to that last gathering. I am way behind on the gossip!

judith



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 11 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

S'OK. This is breaking news!

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