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Penny Outskirts



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:
We just bought it. Best part of 5 acres. God, what am I going to do with it?

So chuffed....


Well done mate (downsizer music/food festival )

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:
We just bought it. Best part of 5 acres. God, what am I going to do with it?

So chuffed....


Well done, I'm rather envious. I'd certainly look to plant some native trees on some areas and you could even get a grant to help although that'll complicate things if you plan to sell within 10 years.

If there's any chance of you being able to use the wood I'd plant a couple of acres of ash with a few other natives mixed in (hazel, crab apple, maple, wild cherry, oak etc...).

Or you could plant up a decent number of fruit trees or pehaps some vines...

mochyn



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Fantastic news, Nick. I can only manage a virtual cake today, I'm afraid. Did someone say something about a Downsizer food festival? It's nice lfat land: excellent for camping...

Cathryn



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

and we'll come in our rally cars

wellington womble



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Congratualtions nick (I'm not green with envy at all!)

Would it be very rude of us to ask how much it went for, in the end?

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

A 'paddock' 100 yds away was a shade under three acres, with no water, went for about �15,000.

Our 'field' of 4.5 acres, with water went for �21,110. Apparently there was lots of interest, and our bid was 'very close to the next one'.

What's the difference between a paddock and a field? Is this marketing speak?

We're very pleased. Rob R has already suggested we turn it into a nudist beach and melon farm. Any other brith ideas?

Andy B



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:
A 'paddock' 100 yds away was a shade under three acres, with no water, went for about �15,000.

Our 'field' of 4.5 acres, with water went for �21,110. Apparently there was lots of interest, and our bid was 'very close to the next one'.

What's the difference between a paddock and a field? Is this marketing speak?

We're very pleased. Rob R has already suggested we turn it into a nudist beach and melon farm. Any other brith ideas?


Was that a freudian slip ?

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Sure that was supposed to say Bright Ideas....

Bugs



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:
We're very pleased. Rob R has already suggested we turn it into a nudist beach and melon farm. Any other brith ideas?


Smother it with polytunnels and flog early strawbs to Waitrose? Everyone who's anyone in Herefordshire is doing it, darling.

I suppose you're actually after sensible ideas! Until you reach a decision is there any way of making a quick but not too long term payback for it (esp if you need to make any improvements to boundaries etc), like renting it out or indeed letting people camp for a while? What did you say it was used for before?

Congratulations by the way - I'm not at all envious either, the 40 shades of green I have turned :alien: :glasses3: :sad8: is pure ecologically influenced enthusiasm, honest guv. Or do we have to say squire now?

Nick



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It's been used, variously, for cows, and grass crops (hay? Silage?) dunno, didn't pay much attention to it.

Fences seem in good nick all the way around, and hedges are thick and lush, and well cut.

In the very short term, we're renting it out to some neighbours for a horse of theirs, but they only require a small section of it, longer term.

Polytunnels may not be the way to go, nor camping, because we might attract people who own caravans and think they are OK.

I'm tempted to concrete it, and paint it green as a low maintenance way of owning the countryside, but not actually having to get too close to it.

As for squire, I'm not sure I like the sound of that. I'm still way behind Tahir in my grandiosity, I think. Tahir, got any good deals on trees going, I'd quite like a small wood...?

Cathryn



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

nickhowe wrote:
It's been used, variously, for cows, and grass crops (hay? Silage?) dunno, didn't pay much attention to it.

Fences seem in good nick all the way around, and hedges are thick and lush, and well cut.

In the very short term, we're renting it out to some neighbours for a horse of theirs, but they only require a small section of it, longer term.



Enough enough - envy is a very sad trait Rernting it out to someone who can also maintain the hedges/fences as part of the deal would save you having to make any decisions for awhile.

gil
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Fantastic news.
How much time and energy do you have to give it ? This will constrain / shape what you do with it. And what would you like to do in the future ?

John Seymour's book has a blueprint for self-suffficiency on 5 acres.

On that scale, given that it's flat and has water, you could do a decent amount of crop rotation.

What's the soil and climate like ? What grows well in your area ? What do other farmers do ?

You could do or rent out as a grazing/arable silage rotation : a short or longer grass ley (pasture with livestock on) followed by a year or more of arable crops or arable silage (when you plough the grass up and sow crops that can be harvested and sold, such as potatoes, wheat, grain/pulse mixtures for animal feed).

There is a shortage of certified organic animal feed, such as field beans, lupins, grain generally including rye and oats which are easier to grow organically than wheat). There's also a shortage of organic grain, including oats for milling and human consumption.

You could also host a Downsizer beer, wine nd food festival

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

rave

gil
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cuff



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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 06 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

willow seems to be the thing to do at the mo 8 acres sounds like heaven

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