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Mrs R

Joined: 15 Aug 2008
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 10:24 am Post subject:

Slim wrote:

Ixy wrote:

is that the beer I should be getting used to?

Depends on your budget. It's the best of the really cheap beers (30 rack for $10 when on sale) and quite popular among hipsters

what's a hipster? budget...hmmm, unless i get real good at PBR real quick...not a lot

hey, new england, isn't there quite an ox-scene there?

Barefoot Andrew
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Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 10:58 am Post subject:

Slim wrote:

hipsters

resistance is fertile

Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Posts: 1534
Location: The heart of North Devon

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 12:17 pm Post subject:
I have thought about applying to become part of the Ladonian nobility

Went

Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 6968

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 12:21 pm Post subject:

No matter which country you think you might like to relocate to, the key is research, experience before deciding, more research....and letting go. It'll come as no suprise that many people think that they can 'live the dream' but within a few months the dream becomes a bit of a nightmare.Whenever we have talked to such people, it becomes clear early on that they have never really considered the range of emotions, challenges and opportunities such a move entails. For example, some people spend a couple of weeks holiday in a place and go home thinking...."I could live there" or they will watch endless TV programmes about relocating abroad and believe that it is pain free and simple. After three years of research, endless visits and long holidays here, it was the right decision for us however, there were many unexpected challenges - things you never really think about because they are outside of your experience and comfort zone, there were good times and difficult times, many opportunities some lost and some taken....all in all it was the right decision for us. Three years down the line, I am grateful that we are still young enough and motivated enough to continue to change our way of thinking and that we are flexible in our ways. Our quality of life has increased 3 fold. My one piece of advice to anyone considering such a move would be that you have to be able to let go of what you are used to and familiar with....there is nothing worse than a Brit abroad constantly harping on about ....."Back in the UK we could.....or why can't they do it like they do back home"......

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 1:40 pm Post subject:

Ian33568 wrote:

there is nothing worse than a Brit abroad constantly harping on about ....."Back in the UK we could.....or why can't they do it like they do back home"......

There is for me- the ones over here constantly complaining & saying how much better it would be to live abroad without ever actually doing anything about it- I'm happy enough; a constant barrage of moaning just makes me wish they'd emigrate.

resistance is fertile

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Location: The heart of North Devon

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 1:47 pm Post subject:

boisdevie1

Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 3897
Location: Lancaster

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 2:45 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

Ian33568 wrote:

there is nothing worse than a Brit abroad constantly harping on about ....."Back in the UK we could.....or why can't they do it like they do back home"......

Moving to another country is not an easy thing to do, especially if the language is different. There's always a 'grass is always greener' view which leaves people thinking that life in another country might somehow be easier than in the UK. Not so because other counties have differences in culture/language/employment.
After 8 years of living in France this year I'm for the first time earning regularly a decent wage. And I do speak the language.

ksia

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 2320
Location: Mayenne, France

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 2:53 pm Post subject:

boisdevie1 wrote:

After 8 years of living in France this year I'm for the first time earning regularly a decent wage. And I do speak the language.

For me (ia) it's taken 5 years to get a regular rubbish wage. ks about (cross fingers) to start a course after a series of short term jobs. (Both well-qualified, experienced, French speaking, not afraid to try anything). We're not moaning - we have the life we more-or-less want - but yes, bdv, people need to accept brown patches amongst the green grass.

mousjoos

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 1986
Location: VERY Sunny SW France

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 3:05 pm Post subject:
Seconded. People with 2nd homes tend to think we're all on holiday & work for beer-money.....I f***in' wish!

sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 3:29 pm Post subject:

mousjoos wrote:

Seconded.
People with 2nd homes tend to think we're all on holiday & work for beer-money.....I f***in' wish!

That's the issue really I think. People go to places on holiday and fancy living there without thinking about real life. An astonishing number of 'picture postcard' isolated cottages get sold round here in the summer and appear on the market again the following spring.

Barefoot Andrew
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Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 4:02 pm Post subject:

boisdevie1 wrote:

There's always a 'grass is always greener' view

Maybe those who aim to integrate into the local community, customs, culture and language from the very outset have the right mentality to brave the tough times until they're settled.
A.

ksia

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 2320
Location: Mayenne, France

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 4:34 pm Post subject:

Barefoot Andrew wrote:

Maybe those who aim to integrate into the local community, customs, culture and language from the very outset have the right mentality to brave the tough times until they're settled.
A.

Like weeing during a rough ferry crossing, having a good aim isn't always all there is to some kind of success.

madmonk

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 835

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 5:02 pm Post subject:

You will never get it 100% as hard as you try, I allowed an extra 15% on costs, then the pound drops 30%, you need to be like Baldrick and have a cunning plan, or be acceptable to change, we have had our low's but on the whole we would not change things. Having your fruit and veg on your doorstep, chickens in the garden, these are things you cannot do in a flat in Northampton. Things I miss apart from my kids, nothing I cannot get a substitute for over here if I'm that desperate. Got excited the other week cos someone had a telly, bloody typical when I went to watch, it was a repeat.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 9:05 pm Post subject:

boisdevie1 wrote:

Rob R wrote:

Ian33568 wrote:

there is nothing worse than a Brit abroad constantly harping on about ....."Back in the UK we could.....or why can't they do it like they do back home"......

I don't doubt all you say, I just don't want to hear about it I mean the "UK is rubbish, it's much better in x, y, or z", not your experience, that is worth hearing

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 09 9:08 pm Post subject:

ksia wrote:

Like weeing during a rough ferry crossing, having a good aim isn't always all there is to some kind of success.

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