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Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 12 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It depends on the company, I know some do allow named drivers to build up NCD although I expect you'd have to take out the new policy with them at least to start with.

Also don't forget that if the policy has the parent the main driver and the child is just a named driver the parent must to most of the driving, otherwise the insurance may not pay out which is understandable.

 
john of wessex



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 12 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Having seen how the numties in Saxo's drive round our way, I dont understand how many of them get cover.

Theproblem as far as I understand it is that there are fewer young drivers as a % of the under 21 age group BUT their accident rate is getting worse. (Or Terminal Stupidity rate is much higher)

 
oldish chris



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 12 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Is it worth noting that the reason insurance is so expensive is the very high probability that a youngster will be in an accident (and may get hurt).

 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Hairyloon wrote:
Alternatively, I did read (somewhere reasonably convincing) that it is not actually compulsory to have motor insurance, provided that you have �1/2million on deposit, ring-fenced in case of an accident.

You cannot get a tax disc without car insurance.

 
Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Alternatively, I did read (somewhere reasonably convincing) that it is not actually compulsory to have motor insurance, provided that you have �1/2million on deposit, ring-fenced in case of an accident.

You cannot get a tax disc without car insurance.


Tax discs last for up to a year though, you can get car insurance for just a day.

 
Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
Mary-Jane wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Alternatively, I did read (somewhere reasonably convincing) that it is not actually compulsory to have motor insurance, provided that you have �1/2million on deposit, ring-fenced in case of an accident.

You cannot get a tax disc without car insurance.


Tax discs last for up to a year though, you can get car insurance for just a day.


True. I hadn't thought of that.

 
Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Obviously not got a criminal mind...

 
wipka84



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you're looking to buy the car, pick one in a lower insurance group. Autotrader also list the insurance group in the vehicle spec/performance tab/extra info area where they supply stock information about a particular make/model/year.

The car they're driving could make a huge difference.

Car Insurance Group Cars 1 - 4

The following cars are in the lower insurance groups and you should get cheap online car insurance as a result:

Fiat Panda, Punto
Citroen C1,C2
Ford KA, Fiesta
Peugeot 107, 206, 207
Vauxhall Meriva, Corsa
Toyota Aygo, Yaris
Renault Clio
VW Fox, Polo
Skoda Fabia, Felicia

Car Insurance Group Cars 4 - 7

The following cars are in the small family car bracket:

Nissan Almera
Citroen C3,C4
Ford Focus
Peugeot 307
Vauxhall Astra
Toyota Corolla
Renault Meganne
VW Golf

Car Insurance Group Cars 8 - 12

The following cars are in the small family car bracket:

Nissan Primera
Citroen C5
Ford Mondeo
Peugeot 407
Vauxhall Vectra
Toyota Avensis
Renault Laguna
VW Passat

The Highest group cars (groups 16-20), fall into the prestige car category and include all the usual names:

Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Volvo, Jaguar, Porche, Ferrari etc.

 
Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mary-Jane wrote:
Hairyloon wrote:
Alternatively, I did read (somewhere reasonably convincing) that it is not actually compulsory to have motor insurance, provided that you have �1/2million on deposit, ring-fenced in case of an accident.

You cannot get a tax disc without car insurance.

Is what I thought, but I also thought insurance was obligatory as did everybody I know.
If we were wrong about one, then we may be wrong about the other.

 
Rob R



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It is illegal for a car to be on the public highway without a valid tax disc, though.

 
Mary-Jane



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wipka84 wrote:

The Highest group cars (groups 16-20), fall into the prestige car category and include all the usual names:

Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Volvo, Jaguar, Porche, Ferrari etc.


Dammit - and there was I thinking that I might buy one of those for Jack (aged 17)

Thanks for the rest of the info about the car insurance groups though - that was very helpful

 
joanne



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

That was helpful about the insurance groups - I may be in a better position to buy Sam a car next year, so knowing what is a cheaper insurance risk is handy

 
Hairyloon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The vehicle of choice when I was at skool was one of these.
I expect the insurance on them is still relatively cheap...

 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 12 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



and minors can drive em iirc

 
AnneL



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 12 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Try Collingwood for insurance for Learners. You can insure with them as an add-on for your car or for juniors own vehicle. We paid �240 for 84 days on sons car. You have to cancel when they pass and it doesn't count towards no claims.

After passing try comparison sites Sabre came out cheapest for our son, we had loads of quotes from the most expensive of �5950 from Aviva , CoverBox was �4070 and the best I could find was just over �3000. I spent a whole afternoon trying to get insurance sorted. We were advised to add both parents onto policy to bring price down a bit.

I tried to add other son to my Fiesta 5 years ago and was quoted an extra �2000 so it made �3000 for his own car seem reasonable.

I guess it depends if Jack really needs to drive now, it might be worth waiting till he's older and judged to be less of a risk .
Also some companys won't quote for a 17 year old e.g.Tesco which is meant to be good for young drivers

 
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