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gemini
Joined: 02 Nov 2012 Posts: 69
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46248 Location: yes
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 12 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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gemini wrote: |
Hi
Have you seen a programme on channel 4,re small spaces, there are a load of tips it is on Tuesday 9pm, and he has also a web site, last week it was about modules that cliptogether, as this farmer wanted to diversey.(sorry about spelling) but it is a really good programme,and it is not too complicated Gemini |
We've been watching that series too and it is really interesting, but also very strange how people build things - the pods were such a tight squeeze to get them out of the building & they could have got them out easily by taking some of the boarding above the door off but they decided to turn it around inside the building.
The this week the lady spent a load of money on a chasis that meant her little cabin was portable, then she proceded to build it outside and sheet it down when it rained.
Blacksheep wrote: |
Hi I am looking to replace a prefabricated asbestos bungalow, which I don't feel is safely habitable, with possibly a log cabin, double mobile home construction or similar. Aiming to keep costs as low as possible and building as simple as possible but do want to end up with pleasant living space (the current bungalow is within a nice wooded and grassland plot), removal of the existing building could cost up to 40k!
Any advice appreciated of good value sectional/mobile buildings welcome or any to avoid etc.
Hoping the planning should not be too difficult due to the existing dwelling but have absolutely no experience of dealing with planners. Although as the front edge of the bungalow is on the edge of a conservation area there could be some issues, also I have heard of problems with siting log cabins near to trees due to a perceived fire risk, so again any advice or thoughts on these issues welcomed too.
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We built a substantial 6 x 12m cabin for about what dpack said, 30k but using a lot of our own labour and five years ago. 110mm externals and 55mm internals. Speak to planning - it can always be painted grey to resemble asbestos. |
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onemanband
Joined: 26 Dec 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: NCA90
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Bebo
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 12590 Location: East Sussex
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Blacksheep
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Posts: 196 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 12 2:19 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies all.
Yes I have been watching the small spaces series, plenty of interesting ideas there.
The asbestos bungalow is classed as a fixed building rather then temporary structure, it has been in place some 35 to 40years.
The asbestos panels are large floor to ceiling panels, they comprise the outside wall and the inside wall with a sandwich of asbestos insulation. Each individual panel will be quite heavy due to the size, unfortunately I don't think its something that we could manage to tackle ourselves, and once we get help it would need to be professional approved asbestos contractor I would presume. I am not sure what type the asbestos is, and the insulation would probably be more of a concern than the exterior/interior walls of the panels - probably need to get someone in to determine what we type we are dealing with, I assume the builder must have there could be blue asbestos for the indicative price he expected it would be.
Thanks for the indicative prices, again we are probably going to have to employ contractors to install a replacement building, 10k for log cabin statics, with 2 to form a building sounds good very good if it is in decent condition dpack, and would allow some updating internally if this was needed. I have seen one for sale in Ireland, quite a bit more as it is fairly new, this is what made me wonder about the mobile home type that come in 2 halves. Just need to source one a bit nearer... Interesting that it would be considered a static building with be fixed to the floor, that would probably be good as at some point in the future for it should make a super building plot, if the trees don't make it unviable, and I wouldn't want its planning designation to be changed to a mobile home only/temporary building.
We would be looking to let out the cabin/replacement structure so I am currently working with the Council's empty homes officer and waiting to hear back from him, I think he may do some of the liaison with the planning department, and I would like to have his ongoing involvement and help if at all possible, although unlikely that he would remain involved for a large scale rebuild etc. Its helpful to have the information here and I can see if a mobile cabin home is something that could be let through their scheme and assisted with.
Will keep scouring the internet for 2nd hand mobile home cabins preferably, if anyone knows of one for sale please let me know..
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onemanband
Joined: 26 Dec 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: NCA90
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Blacksheep
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Posts: 196 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 12 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi onemanband, yes we may need to look more into that option, I have just had one local builder out to look at it so far, I made it clear that we were exploring options, including the one you suggest, at the moment, and he is aware of the local planning designations. His opinion was that it was not worthwhile to refurbish the existing dwelling as it may not be structually sound enough, although also he said we could be looking at up to 40k for demolition, so I take your point. I think that the fact that there will still be all that asbestos in the building that is a concern to me, but maybe it shouldn't be if it is properly sealed. Do you think building regs approvals would be needed for any work like this, as if so then maybe I should be checking with them sooner rather than later to see whether or not this type of recladding and lining work would be permitted for the building.
I think I will get together some quotes for demolition, which will help decide on exploring this option further, and as you say should hopefully be easier than getting a replacement building through planning. From the planning aspect I am also wondering whether it would be possible to keep the basic framework in place, just replacing any deteriorated woodwork, and then actually replace the asbestos panels with new (non asbestos!) ones...think I need to talk to another builder, obviously this still entails the cost of asbestos removal. |
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Blacksheep
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Posts: 196 Location: Shropshire
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onemanband
Joined: 26 Dec 2010 Posts: 1473 Location: NCA90
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Blacksheep
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Posts: 196 Location: Shropshire
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