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tahir



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Lambing No way mate.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

It might be a cheaper option buying inlamb full mouths. I would have said 20 is to many for 3 acres. I wouldn't go more than 4 to the acre.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Also if you use electric netting & fold them they utilise the grazing better/ have fewer worming issues. What do organic farmers use to worm?

tahir



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

TAVASCAROW wrote:
It might be a cheaper option buying inlamb full mouths.


Wossat mean?

I've no intention of keeping 20, might start with 4 or summat.

Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

An old ewe that is reaching the end of her commercial value. Hill farmers sell them off cheao in lamb. Would get around your organic problem as the lambs would be born on your holding.

tahir



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

TAVASCAROW wrote:
An old ewe that is reaching the end of her commercial value. Hill farmers sell them off cheao in lamb. Would get around your organic problem as the lambs would be born on your holding.


TC I need to come into this gentle like, never had pets or livestock. I don't want to be responsible for lambing and suchlike Maybe in a few years, right now I want the absolute easiest path into this.

Gervase



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Absolute easiest path is going to be store wethers - they're blokes, so there's no worries about the odd one being pregnant, they've got no nadgers so they're not (as) stroppy and you'll be slaughtering 'em (probably) before it's time to shear them.
Only snag is, if you want organic, you've got to source 'em from organic holdings, and may have to travel.

gil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 06 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Gervase wrote:
Absolute easiest path is going to be store wethers - they're blokes, so there's no worries about the odd one being pregnant, they've got no nadgers so they're not (as) stroppy and you'll be slaughtering 'em (probably) before it's time to shear them.
Only snag is, if you want organic, you've got to source 'em from organic holdings, and may have to travel.


Which is, I think, where my first post on this thread was heading, option 2. As I PMd, 'store' is likely to mean hill or hill-cross sheep that the farmer can't fatten cos the grazing ain't good enough, so he/she sells them on part-fattened to lowland farmers (like yerself) to finish off to eating size. Sales in the summer/early autumn.

Some store hill options might be Cheviot or Black Welsh mountain, also possibly Shetland (small, not hill, but hardy).

Scottish Blackface purebred or anything Swaledale : just don't go there . They have horns, and they're not afraid to use them. And they can jump.

Other advantages are they're no longer cute at that age, so your kids won;t get so attached to them; and they probably won't need fox-proof fencing cos they'll be big enough to fend for themselves.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 06 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gil wrote:

RobR would probably recommend Kerry Hill, but can you get them organic ?


No I wouldn't, they may be the best available, but there just aren't the numbers available yet to supply the current demand. There is one certified organic farm near Carlisle just starting with Kerry Hills, and that is going to be a big flock, but they will be finishing their own stock.

gil
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 06 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Rob R wrote:
There is one certified organic farm near Carlisle just starting with Kerry Hills, and that is going to be a big flock, but they will be finishing their own stock.


Who's that, and where ? Wonder of I know of them.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 06 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

gil wrote:
Rob R wrote:
There is one certified organic farm near Carlisle just starting with Kerry Hills, and that is going to be a big flock, but they will be finishing their own stock.


Who's that, and where ? Wonder of I know of them.


I would think so: https://www.askertoncastle.co.uk/

gil
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 06 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yeh, they're part of the Hadrian Organics crew.

Vic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 06 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

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I would think so: https://www.askertoncastle.co.uk/


I can highly recommend their beef and lamb - well worth checking out, and good people too. Shall be interested to learn about the Kerry Hills...

mochyn



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 06 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You've got me thinking now. Would you say that sheep give the least expensively produced meat? As opposed to pigs which I already have. I'm thinking 2 or 3 bought in at, say, 6 months and grown on until slaughter. I have a spare half acre (is there really such a thing?) and I'm sure I could buy animals from the neighbours.

You realise, the old chap is going to ban me from this site soon if I go on acquiring more stock, don't you?

Rob R



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 06 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

mochyn wrote:
Would you say that sheep give the least expensively produced meat?


Not really, the costs are less up front, if that's what you mean.

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