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DarrenG

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
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Location: Lincolnshire Fens

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 7:22 am Post subject: fence post treatment

most garage workshops will welcome you with open arms if you go to them and ask for some old sump oil, they WILL give you 45 gallons for nothing as they have to pay for desposal pour some into a plastic dustbin and put the fence posts in, as most posts are sunk 2' its not hard to guess how dep the oil should be, then leave to soak for a couple of weeks, do this even if tanalised it will give your posts many more years

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: under some rain.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 10:32 am Post subject:
What about oil leaching into the soil? I need to run a fence along a watercourse.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 10:53 am Post subject:
Is there anything on Defra about this? You may run into problems with the disposal of oil regs. I'll do some digging over the weekend.

DarrenG

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
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Location: Lincolnshire Fens

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 2:07 pm Post subject:
after you remove the posts from the oil you leave them another week to dry, then you dont have to worry about seepage looks like I am gonna have to stop posting here my last two threads have all lead to DEFRA

Bugs

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 2:18 pm Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

looks like I am gonna have to stop posting here my last two threads have all lead to DEFRA

It's nothing personal Darren, there just seem to be laws about absolutely everything conceivable these days. Better safe than sorry.

Didn't someone mention somewhere else on here that they had used sump oil to waterproof a shed roof or something like that? Blacksmith I think

Blacksmith

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Location: Berkshire

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 4:19 pm Post subject:
Yep ! That was me, I put some old hardboard on the ground and painted the sump oil on. My shed hadn't been treated for a year or so and it sucked the oil off the brush ! It has brought out the original timber treatment colour, my sump oil also contained a few litres of EP gerbox oil, this thickened it up. It was touch dry within a few days, cant see a problem with it leaching out ? Dave.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 6:55 pm Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

after you remove the posts from the oil you leave them another week to dry, then you dont have to worry about seepage
looks like I am gonna have to stop posting here my last two threads have all lead to DEFRA

Not sure that DEFRA is the correct link. I'm just suggesting people check before use. As creosote has been banned from DIY use unless you're quallified I wondered if old oil had been.

I was advised to use old oil and creosote mix on some old timber. Not sure what I'll use at the moment.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 7:27 pm Post subject:
I appreciate that it's potentially a use for waste oil but what environmentally friendly options are there if you don't have any used engine oil lying around?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 8:05 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

I appreciate that it's potentially a use for waste oil but what environmentally friendly options are there if you don't have any used engine oil lying around?

Chestnut posts.

I know some woods last far longer that others. I'm note sure how easy it would be to track them down, but there must be some people out there supplying it.

DarrenG

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
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Location: Lincolnshire Fens

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 8:11 am Post subject:
and cost? my last field took 970 posts

tahir

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 8:13 am Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

and cost? my last field took 970 posts

For how many acres?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 8:36 am Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

and cost? my last field took 970 posts

I must admit I was thinking along the lines of how much money someone would get selling them.

I was also thinking along the lines of small scale smallholders, rather than farmers. The rules tend to be different as well. I.e. I cannot use creosote for my own fence but I think a professional expert can use creosote for timber in or near water.

jema
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 9:00 am Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

DarrenG wrote:

and cost? my last field took 970 posts

When did the rules change, when I think post treatment, I think creosote

jema
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 9:05 am Post subject:
https://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/facts/creosote.htm Seems to have been 2001.

deerstalker

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 2:52 pm Post subject:
I read that used engine oil is carcinogenic due to contamination with burnt hydrocarbons. This is the reason why mechanics now wear latex gloves.

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