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DarrenG

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
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Location: Lincolnshire Fens

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 2:07 pm Post subject:
after you remove the posts from the oil you leave them another week to dry, then you dont have to worry about seepage looks like I am gonna have to stop posting here my last two threads have all lead to DEFRA

Bugs

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 2:18 pm Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

looks like I am gonna have to stop posting here my last two threads have all lead to DEFRA

It's nothing personal Darren, there just seem to be laws about absolutely everything conceivable these days. Better safe than sorry.

Didn't someone mention somewhere else on here that they had used sump oil to waterproof a shed roof or something like that? Blacksmith I think

Blacksmith

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Location: Berkshire

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 4:19 pm Post subject:
Yep ! That was me, I put some old hardboard on the ground and painted the sump oil on. My shed hadn't been treated for a year or so and it sucked the oil off the brush ! It has brought out the original timber treatment colour, my sump oil also contained a few litres of EP gerbox oil, this thickened it up. It was touch dry within a few days, cant see a problem with it leaching out ? Dave.

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 6:55 pm Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

after you remove the posts from the oil you leave them another week to dry, then you dont have to worry about seepage
looks like I am gonna have to stop posting here my last two threads have all lead to DEFRA

Not sure that DEFRA is the correct link. I'm just suggesting people check before use. As creosote has been banned from DIY use unless you're quallified I wondered if old oil had been.

I was advised to use old oil and creosote mix on some old timber. Not sure what I'll use at the moment.

tahir

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 7:27 pm Post subject:
I appreciate that it's potentially a use for waste oil but what environmentally friendly options are there if you don't have any used engine oil lying around?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 05 8:05 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

I appreciate that it's potentially a use for waste oil but what environmentally friendly options are there if you don't have any used engine oil lying around?

Chestnut posts.

I know some woods last far longer that others. I'm note sure how easy it would be to track them down, but there must be some people out there supplying it.

DarrenG

Joined: 26 Dec 2004
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Location: Lincolnshire Fens

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 8:11 am Post subject:
and cost? my last field took 970 posts

tahir

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 8:13 am Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

and cost? my last field took 970 posts

For how many acres?

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 8:36 am Post subject:

DarrenG wrote:

and cost? my last field took 970 posts

I must admit I was thinking along the lines of how much money someone would get selling them.

I was also thinking along the lines of small scale smallholders, rather than farmers. The rules tend to be different as well. I.e. I cannot use creosote for my own fence but I think a professional expert can use creosote for timber in or near water.

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 9:00 am Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

DarrenG wrote:

and cost? my last field took 970 posts

When did the rules change, when I think post treatment, I think creosote

jema
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 9:05 am Post subject:
https://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/facts/creosote.htm Seems to have been 2001.

deerstalker

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 589

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 2:52 pm Post subject:
I read that used engine oil is carcinogenic due to contamination with burnt hydrocarbons. This is the reason why mechanics now wear latex gloves.

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 05 3:10 pm Post subject:
I think creosote was banned a few years back, as you say, but people were finaly banned from using old supplies last April I think. Together with many garden sprays.

Lloyd

Joined: 24 Jan 2005
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 05 10:12 pm Post subject:
Oak fenceposts (unseasoned) available here in 6 weeks.

Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 05 5:32 pm Post subject:

The telephone company and/or electricity company round these parts use 'boron rod' which are about 8mm diameter to protect their poles. My understanding is that they are boric oxide, rather than boron, and break down into boric acid over time. Not sure about the ecological aspects, or economics for that matter, but they have the advantage of being a retrofit option and relatively neat to apply - you just drill an 8mm hole in the post near the ground and stick it in. Will dig around and see what I can come up with.

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