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Treacodactyl
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 10 3:46 pm    Post subject: Foolproof salami Reply with quote
    

Is there such a thing as a foolproof salami recipe or do you have to take great care to get the ingredients right, the conditions during curing right etc, etc? With bacon I can leave out the salt petre, make it on the salty side and freeze it if I wish so there's no real chance of it going wrong.

For my first attempt I wouldn't mind if they were quite fatty or salty as I'd use them in cooking rather than eating on their own.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 10 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Personally, I'd want to be accurate on the preservative levels. I don't think that the conditions for maturing them are that critical. We've just hung our hams, salami and chorizo in the shed and nobody's died yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 10 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

You have to be quite careful with the ingredients and make sure you include a proper cure that includes salt petre (or equivalent) as well as acidophilus (or equivalent). Temperature wise, I tend to make mine in the autumn and then hang them in a cool, but frost free, store rooom.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 10 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

If you can bear to wait a month, we will have salami mixes, with all ingredients and instructions written and video, available.

But yes, you have to use the right curing mixture unless you want to make yourself rather ill.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 10 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

But how do you know the cure has been successful? Very occasionally when we make bread for example the yeast seems to fail to work and you get a small brick rather than a decent loaf but that's obvious. I'd use a commercial cure and follow the instructions but how do you know all is well or if something has gone wrong?

Edit to add, I've just looked at HFW's details https://www.rivercottage.net/EdibleProjects~Kitchen/242/MakingSalami.aspx and he says the only essential preservative is "2.2 per cent salt, by weight". Now if I was to add a bit more salt then I shouldn't have any problems?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 10 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Firmness, mould, texture, scent are the normal ways. You can also test the ph if you have a food meter, but the only way to be absolutely certain is to buy salamis from a supplier who's done all his HACCPs and is using a temperature controlled process, sending off samples for testing etc.

Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's curing instructions are terrible. And salt is not all you need. A proper cure has one or two other ingredients to reduce the chances of a serious failure to cure.

Seriously, Whittingstall is not a good guide on curing. And his salami recipes are not that great, either.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 10 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

after my very successful ham and bacon trials both myself and my head pig taster (otherwise know as Dave were hoping to try a salami/ chorizo next. if HFW is not too good for salami does anyone have a good recipe??

ros



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 10 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brownbear wrote:
, but the only way to be absolutely certain is to buy salamis from a supplier who's done all his HACCPs and is using a temperature controlled process, sending off samples for testing etc.



and where would we find one of them then ?

quixoticgeek



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 10 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I made a batch of salami based on the river cottage recipes. I found they worked quite well.

I didn't use anything fancy in the cure, just salt. I found it invaluable to have a set of high precision scales, it doesn't need to be that exact, but something better than your typical kitchen scales. For my mix I needed 22gm of salt, which is not easy to measure exactly. I got myself a set of these which have been invaluable when preserving.

As for where to hang them. I built myself a meat locker out of a wooden Ikea storage box (now discontinued SNACK range), which I added a door, and many holes in the side (covered with louvred vents). I stuck a roof on it form a sheet of aluminium. This is then hung on a wall in the garden in an area that gets alot of wind but next to no sunlight. I just hang my stuff in there to dry, works a treat. Just remember to make sure that the temp is in the 4�C - 15�C range, not warmer, and not colder. Down in Kent this means that the curing "season" is Oct-December, and march-April.

I think that covers most of it. One last thing to note, it does get abit addictive this charcurterie lark, after your first success you then start hunting around for your next item to cure. I can recommend the Bresoala

Good luck.

J

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