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Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
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Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 1:06 pm Post subject:

sally_in_wales wrote:

its calculating allergen percentages that always gives me a headache, partly because the IFRA website is so horrible to find your way around, and even very common and widely considered to be 'safe' ingredients often have just enough of one of the notifiable potential allergens to need it adding to the label. I do have a spreadsheet that crunches most of the numbers for me, but I like to do the odd one from scratch to double check no errors are creeping in, and it always takes me ages

It's labelling that is taking up most of the time....Gah...rules and regs!

sally_in_wales
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Location: sunny wales

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 1:13 pm Post subject:
Yep. On the plus side, once you have it cracked for most of your range, a new variation isnt that hard to do as you have the basic layout already prepared. I think the reg that I found most painful was the stamped for trade scales being so expensive compared to an identical but not stamped model.

Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 1:50 pm Post subject:

sally_in_wales wrote:

Yep. On the plus side, once you have it cracked for most of your range, a new variation isnt that hard to do as you have the basic layout already prepared.
I think the reg that I found most painful was the stamped for trade scales being so expensive compared to an identical but not stamped model.

This is the reason that anything I am making has to be a test sample to give away at the moment. I'm praying the crowd funding pitch pans out. If not I will have to take things really slowly as all available funds will have to go on regulation and suitable equiptment leaving little for raw ingredients. However, I'm not adverse to slowly slowly catchy monkey

Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 4:44 pm Post subject:
Twitter set up @Merionwen

Went

Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 6968

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 4:50 pm Post subject:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

Twitter set up @Merionwen

In time a Pinterest account would be good and useful to drive traffic through to your site.

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 4:56 pm Post subject:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

Twitter set up @Merionwen

the website address is showing an error when you click through from twitter. I know it isnt all ready yet but some sort of pretty holding screen would be an idea maybe?

Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 4:59 pm Post subject:

sally_in_wales wrote:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

Twitter set up @Merionwen

the website address is showing an error when you click through from twitter. I know it isnt all ready yet but some sort of pretty holding screen would be an idea maybe?

I know...we're on it

*pokes BA with stick*

Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 4:59 pm Post subject:

Wentworth wrote:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

Twitter set up @Merionwen

In time a Pinterest account would be good and useful to drive traffic through to your site.

ooh good point!

Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 5:19 pm Post subject:
Pinterest done. User name is Merionwen...imaginative eh?

Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 5:20 pm Post subject:
Merionwen e-mail is set up. [email protected]

Barefoot Andrew
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 5:56 pm Post subject:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

sally_in_wales wrote:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

Twitter set up @Merionwen

the website address is showing an error when you click through from twitter. I know it isnt all ready yet but some sort of pretty holding screen would be an idea maybe?

I know...we're on it

*pokes BA with stick*

It's in hand...
A.

ETA Basic 1&1 holding page in place for now. Will sort something merionwen-esque later.

mochasidamo

Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 615
Location: Montgomery

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 13 11:48 pm Post subject:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

I am going to spend this afternoon with pen and paper doing formulating

How are you dealing with the extortionate lab testing costs? Probably a bit our of date but we don't do any creams and potions with our hive products at �150 a recipe....

sally_in_wales
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 13 8:38 am Post subject:

mochasidamo wrote:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

I am going to spend this afternoon with pen and paper doing formulating

How are you dealing with the extortionate lab testing costs? Probably a bit our of date but we don't do any creams and potions with our hive products at �150 a recipe....

Its not quite so bad these days, there are a couple of certifying chemists who will do 'groups' of recipes together, allowing for a very small amount of variation within a specified set of ingredients. Nell and I use the same chemist and whilst its still a major expense, its nowhere near as bad as it was when I first got my soaps certified. You still have to cough up for stamped for trade scales, register as a comsetics manufacturer with the DTI, have trading insurance that specifically covers cosmetics and all the other usual stuff, but about �180 will now get a small handful of closely related recipes certified as one batch.

Nell Merionwen

Joined: 02 Jun 2008
Posts: 16300
Location: Beautiful Derbyshire

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 13 1:18 pm Post subject:

sally_in_wales wrote:

mochasidamo wrote:

Nell Merionwen wrote:

I am going to spend this afternoon with pen and paper doing formulating

How are you dealing with the extortionate lab testing costs? Probably a bit our of date but we don't do any creams and potions with our hive products at �150 a recipe....

What Sally said. The only real restriction I have found so far is in the controls over packaging. Any creams/lotions have to be in an air tight container and open jars are not really an option due to contamination. A sensible requirement really. But I'm looking in to it.

mochasidamo

Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 615
Location: Montgomery

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 13 12:49 am Post subject:
Excellent

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