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T.G

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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 10 3:11 pm Post subject:

lottie wrote:

I haven't had a fridge for 4 weeks---which is fine this weather but I wouldn't like to be without one in the summer when we can't just walk to the shop.

but thats why you used to have a pantry with a cold stone slab

or bury it in the ground

Mrs R

Joined: 15 Aug 2008
Posts: 7202

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 10 8:02 pm Post subject:
I found a big tub of water in the shade enough to keep milk, bacon cheese etc cool in hot weather.

lottie

Joined: 11 Aug 2005
Posts: 5059
Location: ceredigion

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 10 9:37 pm Post subject:

The.Grange wrote:

lottie wrote:

I haven't had a fridge for 4 weeks---which is fine this weather but I wouldn't like to be without one in the summer when we can't just walk to the shop.

but thats why you used to have a pantry with a cold stone slab

or bury it in the ground

I grew up fridgeless until I was 15 and didn't have one the first 2 years I was married--I know how to keep food cool---the difference was that I had a milk delivery or a nearby shop. A week is a long time to keep milk/meat etc fresh between shopping trips in a hot summer---if I had to manage without one I could---but I don't want to.

Shan

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 9075
Location: South Wales

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 11:29 am Post subject:
I have: A dishwasher - frequently used A washing machine - frequently used A tumbledrier - frequently used A coffee machine - frequently used A breadmaker - infrequently used A Coldroom - running at the moment 2 chest freezers - full So there!

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:12 pm Post subject:
I don't know if I dare ask this, what are the most environmentally friendly, ceramic or paper plates? They'd save you loads of time and do away with dishwashers and sinks full of hot water. The manufacturing process is probably less greedy as well.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:28 pm Post subject:

bodger wrote:

I don't know if I dare ask this,

what are the most environmentally friendly, ceramic or paper plates?

They'd save you loads of time and do away with dishwashers and sinks full of hot water. The manufacturing process is probably less greedy as well.

You'd have to do a complete trace from source to waste but I dare say the balance in the ceramics favour, depending on whether they have a reasonable length of service. Don't conduct the audit in Greece though.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:30 pm Post subject:

Shan wrote:

I have:

A dishwasher - frequently used
A washing machine - frequently used
A tumbledrier - frequently used
A coffee machine - frequently used
A breadmaker - infrequently used
A Coldroom - running at the moment
2 chest freezers - full

So there!

Feed the heat waste from the freezers and cold room feed into a drying room and get rid of tumble drier and use it to raise the bread.

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:35 pm Post subject:

I've worked in the pottery industry. The clay is yanked out of the ground leaving a huge hole and then shipped to where ever. It used to be Stoke.on.Trent but now your ceramics come from a different continent. There's a huge energy bill as the plate goes through the manufacturing process and them in and out of the kiln etc. There's usually a lot of waste material and so, I think it must be a close run thing.
Paper plates can be recycled too.

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:40 pm Post subject:

bodger wrote:

I wonder if you can grind broken crockery down and mix it with fresh clay and reuse. Might be good as a pozzolan in lime renders. Paper plates go all soggy when you wash them.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:44 pm Post subject:

bodger wrote:

I don't know if I dare ask this,

what are the most environmentally friendly, ceramic or paper plates?

Wooden ones.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:49 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

bodger wrote:

I don't know if I dare ask this,

what are the most environmentally friendly, ceramic or paper plates?

Wooden ones.

Naan breads?

gil
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Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 4:54 pm Post subject:
Secondhand china plates ?

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 5:01 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

bodger wrote:

I don't know if I dare ask this,

what are the most environmentally friendly, ceramic or paper plates?

Wooden ones.

Dirty ones?

Shan

Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Posts: 9075
Location: South Wales

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 5:12 pm Post subject:
Non dishwashed ones...

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 8980
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 10 5:15 pm Post subject:

[quote="vegplot"]

bodger wrote:

I wonder if you can grind broken crockery down and mix it with fresh clay and reuse. Might be good as a pozzolan in lime renders. Paper plates go all soggy when you wash them.

You can if it is unglazed- then it is called grogg.

Used to reduce shrinkage in firing amongst other things

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